Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem, assalamu alaikum
I was given permission to write about this subject by the prophet Muhammad (saws) who Initially refused I should say anything because people cannot handle knowledge about how things work, they say Allah is Al Qadir, al Muktadir and that is how a car works, on faith.
What is Allah decreeing (Al Qadir) and what process of Qadr is He presiding over and measuring (Al Muktadir) if this universe worked on “magic” or the often-misunderstood command of “Kun” (Be), the names of Allah and what they do in the universe are a witness against people when it comes to science.
Our world works because of scientific asbab (cause and effect) which Allah does not bypass when doing things. People can’t seem to understand that this includes the world of Angels, the entire Quran is Allah explaining science to you, the cause and effect of your actions on the world around you and then the reaction of the universe to you, the universe represents Allah’s will, what He wants to occur.
“Allah tasketh not a soul beyond its scope. For it (is only) that which it hath earned, and against it (only) that which it hath deserved.” (2:286) remember this next time you want think about religion, Islam is not Fiqh (Law), Islam is how the universe works and the haram and halal are based on that, fiqh is meant to express that not replace it.
Allah does everything using everything in the universe, His command “Kun” (be) has a role but it is not the “beginning and end” of what occurs.
Our scholars famously said what ever Allah does under the Arsh, inside the universe, He does through asbab, cause and effect (science), what ever He does above the Arsh, outside the universe, He does with the command Kun, be and it is instantaneously.
Understand Allah is timeless, while everything in the universe exists through time, if you can understand this you can understand why Allah expressed the nature of His command over everything with the word Kun, Be, and it is.
You see this command is used outside the universe where time does not exist, so the nature of Kun Allah’s command is timeless, it occurs instantly but as soon as that command begins to move the universe it is now in the domain of time and works with time, with the nature of our existence.
The more understanding you have the more you may think the lines are grey or blurred, but that is in fact not true that is your inability to define the boundaries of things as they get smaller in your mind, there is a limit to man’s capacity, beyond which Allah lifts responsibility from him, but He has other creatures that can see things to their minute details in a well-defined manner and they take up that work and responsibility, where we end they begin and vice versa.
These are Allah’s spiritual creatures the Angels and Jinn who live to balance and influence the minute details of things. Jinn like us have their limits while every issue in the universe begins in the sphere of the Angels perception, they see it forming first and its nature, so Understand that all things have limits and Angels live according to how the universe works, they are not limitless creatures.
Many of us have heard the Christian claims about fallen Angels and the “airs” occultist put up regarding them, hoping some fault exists in them;
“The concept of angels sinning against God and being expelled from Heaven mainly developed in Judaism during the Second Temple period. It is mainly found in Jewish pseudepigrapha, such as the Book of Enoch, and the Book of Jubilees (Books not accepted by Judaism, the idea was something adopted into “popular Jewish culture”). Although modern Judaism generally rejects the Enochian writings, Jewish traditions acknowledges Samael (an Angel) as a tempter (in charge of temptation), who is in charge of several subordinative accuser angels. However, these angels are regarded as being still subordinative to God’s plan and act as evil inclinations (Allah punishes the evil by leading them further astray, this is in the Quran).”
Allah’s angels are in charge of every facet of the universe, some are in charge of Allah’s knowledge of evil and the things that create it and destroy it, and what brings people to it and makes them leave it.
“In Christianity, Satan is often seen as the leader of the fallen angels. The New Testament mentions Satan 36 times in 33 verses, and the Book of Revelation tells of “that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world”, being thrown down to the Earth together with his angels. Further the book of Revelation speaks of Satan as a great red dragon whose “tail swept a third part of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth” (this is a dream John had about the future of Ibrahim’s son Isaac and His mother who were left in Makkah, Christians have trouble with this dream, because it is about Islam and it is their practice to deny Islam did anything in the world). In verses 7–9, Satan is defeated in the War in Heaven against Michael and his angels: “the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him” (These are the words of the Angels talking about this event to John (as), not God).”
“In Luke 10:18, Jesus says: “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” While the New Testament thus mentions Satan falling from Heaven, it never says that he was an angel, only that he masquerades as one in 2 Corinthians 11:14. The concept of fallen angels is not foreign to the New Testament, though; both 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 1:6 refer to angels who have sinned against God and await punishment on Judgement Day. The Bible records several different times when angels fell to earth. Some have already fallen. Genisis 6:2 (the term sons of God refers to Jinn, this story appears first in the Book of Enoch) Revelation 12:4 and others fall in the future, Revelation 6:13 (both are an idiotic interpretation by Christians of the word “stars” mentioned in the dream of john earlier which is about the Islamic world). Early Christians also integrated non-biblical details from the Enochian writings (a book the church does not accept), which circulated both in oral and written transmission. Irenaeus referred to fallen angels as apostates, who will be punished by an everlasting fire. Tertullian and Origen referred to fallen angels also as teachers of Astrology.”
(All of which are naive interpretations by people cut of from the Sunnah of the texts they are giving tafsir to, the Christian ancient world was one cut off from the rest of the world and is essentially one society trying to interpret the history of another society with their own framework of ideas. Much of this came from Jewish writings and Jews were largely persecuted in their lands).
In the entire new testament fallen Angels are not mentioned once it is all interpreted and translated in, the book of revelations is the Angels “revelations” to the companion of Jesus (ra) John (ra) and not prophecy to a prophet.
Like their confusion over the title claiming this book is revelation, when it is only inspiration to a saint, they are severely wrong about this subject as well.
Christians adopted this belief primarily from a book they do not accept in Christianity, The Book Of Enoch (Idris), where most of these stories are found and ironically the book itself says Ibliss was not an angel in the exact same manner the Quran makes that distinction, changing the entire meaning of every translated account in that book, but since it was one obscure passage, to the Christians of old who had no concept of Jinn at the time to correctly interpret what that meant they invented an entire theology around it that has persisted for thousands of years.
Even the bible itself asserts the same, saying Iblis “masquerades as one (of the Angels) in 2 Corinthians 11:14”, (“And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light”), in fact this is the meaning behind Ibliss being called an Angel in the Quran and the Book of Enoch, He is a Jinn that was made an honorary Angel because both creatures influence our the world from the spiritual part of it and at that time Iblis was in Jannah, elevated to a state Angels are elevated.
At one point in history this state was an honorific remembering a time when He had Ihsan (perfection) like one of the Angels, so Allah counted Him amongst them, since both Jinn and Angels are spiritual creatures, until he rebelled over the most idiotic claim that of (his) strength having more worth with Allah than (Adam’s) Wisdom.
Explaining how Christians are wrong and have been for over 2000 years is simple, most Christians are not Jews and knowledge of Jesus’s (saws) words is grounded in the traditions He (saws) was raised in. Christians are the gentiles who they say Jesus preached to, basically the uneducated, the poor and the beggars, people you would think are lost today if you saw them and who scarcely knew how to read a book, this is the origin of tafsir in the Christian religion and why it diverges from tradition, essentially would you accept tafsir from an uneducated homeless person or a scholar isolated from the history he is studying.
It is no wonder they began inventing things no one had heard of before trying to understand how the universe worked, today this is like physics or cosmology being taught at university by an illiterate group then their students founded a church around these claims.
The gaps that seem to appear when reading the bible, both Muslims and Jews can fill them in very easily because the subtext is entirely referring to their cultures and origin, just as any person when speaking, his culture and lineage is the background of his words.
Jews and Arabs are the descendants of Abraham Christians are not, one from His sons Isaac the other from His son Ishmael (saws).
Jesus (as) came from a Jewish tradition, I think most Christians finally understood that when they heard Him (as) speak Aramaic for the first time, it is the language of Abraham (as) which Arabic and Hebrew came from.
The Jewish Sunnah of its prophets dictated what words and concepts meant which preserved a religion from people claiming idiotic ideas about it, after all Jesus (as) was a Jew like every other Jewish prophet who used the term father in the old testament before him, but the gentiles who had never read the old testament, an exclusively Jewish text at the time, put a new interpretation on it sticking to the Roman traditions they knew and were raised upon.
Despite what Hollywood has made them look like today, they were pagan before Jesus (as) hence they used their pagan traditions to interpret him (as) claiming He was part of a trinity and divine, just like one of the gods of Rome they already worshiped before meeting Jesus (as).
This is Just like the Roman Emperor Julius Caesar who was deified after his death and an entire religion/cult was founded around him within the framework of Roman religions by the senate;
“The Imperial cult of ancient Rome identified emperors and some members of their families with the divinely sanctioned authority (auctoritas) of the Roman State. Its framework was based on Roman and Greek precedents, and was formulated during the early Principate of Augustus, it was Philip’s son Alexander the Great who made the divinity of kings standard practice among the Greeks, His immediate successors, the Diadochi, offered sacrifices to Alexander, and made themselves gods even before they claimed to be kings.”
“The Ptolemies of Egypt and the Seleucids claimed godhood as long as they lasted; they may have been influenced in this by the Persian and Egyptian traditions of divine kings, The Roman magistrates who conquered the Greek world were fitted into this tradition. When T. Quinctius Flamininus extended Roman influence to Greece proper, temples were built for him and cities placed his portrait on their coinage; Worship and temples appear to have been routinely offered by Greeks to their Roman governors, with varied reactions.”
“Caesar’s name as a living divinity – not as yet ratified by senatorial vote – was Divus Julius (Jupiter Julius, their god Jupiter to them was part of trinity Just like Jesus (as), and here we see Caesar being lifted to this godhood by attaching his name to Jupiter); The Temple of Caesar or Temple of Divus Julius also known as Temple of the Deified Julius Caesar is an ancient structure in the Roman Forum of Rome, Italy, located near the Regia and the Temple of Vesta, the temple was begun by Augustus in 42 BC (not long before Jesus (as) was born) after the senate deified Julius Caesar posthumously.”
When the Egyptians and Persians began deifying themselves Allah gave them time to see what would come of this, like anything new that appears in the world, the Greeks and Romans adopted this from them and also began Deifying themselves, Allah ended the Greeks with the Romans and ended this practice after the Romans deified Jesus (saws), who essentially was the last in line.
The Roman Emperor Constantine deified Jesus (saws) because it was the only way the Roman Empire would accept a Jew of lowly birth, who was a carpenter from a people either the slaves in Roman society or barely Roman citizens, as a god and new head figure of the Roman Empire in the likes of Julius Caesar, it was little more than a necessary political move by a people notorious for inventing gods, cults and religions.
Judaism is the cultural identity of Jesus (as), it was how He (as) spoke, acted and behaved and that is the only acceptable way to interpret His words, Jesus (saws) was not a Roman like the gentiles who treated everything He (saws) said as Roman, they did not know how to look at the outside world or Jews because their society was on top.
Let’s start with this Quote: “the deceiver of the whole world, being thrown down to the Earth together with his angels.”
If the honorific for Iblis is being used by the Angels who said this to John (as) then the verse literally translates as Iblis was throw down to earth along with His Jinn (His kind), but, it is generally accepted in Islam He was the only Jinn Allah saved by raising him from earth to Jannah before killing most of the Jinn causing chaos on earth in the age of the dinosaurs.
This honorific of calling a Jinn an Angel is like calling your child an Angel and was primarily for the sake of the old world, think back 10000+ years ago to mans capacity to understand differences, to the time of Idriss (Enoch) when this was first said and recorded in His book.
Mankind could not handle the idea of different species existing other than the Angels, Allah made it easier for them to understand the nature of something by emphasising a relationship it had to something they already knew, the nature of Jinn and Angels are somewhat similar.
It is the same reason prophets called Allah father in the old testament, it taught illiterate people about the relationship they should be having with Allah in a simple way, a father son relationship, this is how Allah treats His creation in life, like a father nurturing a child and raising them to maturity, but He is not the father of anyone or anything.
The translation of the verse in the book of revelations rather suffers from a wrong perspective, If I said the Arabs were cast out of their homes along with their Jewish friends, am I saying these Arabs are Jews or is there ambiguity about the affair.
These Arabs could be Jewish Arabs, Muslim Arabs or Christian Arabs, but what I am not saying is that these two peoples are one and the same group, there is an obvious distinction being made because we are using two separate titles, so whatever the interpretation you can’t conclude they were in fact the same group from the start.
If they were Jewish Arabs that means the other Jews being mentioned were not Arabs but Jews from a different race.
If you can understand that you can understand the entire confusion of translators who were never qualified to translate nuances of a culture they had never seen or studied or were born into. In fact, the Jews have the correct answer to all of this which we have already quoted, all Angels act on behalf of Allah no matter their role, but because Christians are an arrogant people they prefer their own opinions over traditions and scholarship, after all they invented an entire religion around this type of mistake;
“Furthermore, [this divine writ is meant] to warn all those who assert, “God has taken unto Himself a son. No knowledge whatever have they of Him, and neither had their forefathers (knowledge of Jesus (saws), it was a new spin on an old trick, this was not the first trinity of the roman empire it was rather a regular claim about their rulers, being part of the Roman trinity of gods Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto like Jupiter Julius): dreadful is this saying that comes out of their mouths, [and] nothing but falsehood do they utter!” (118:4-5)
“It is generally, although erroneously, supposed that the doctrine of the Trinity is of Christian origin. Nearly every (pagan) nation of antiquity possessed a similar doctrine (Sumaria, Babylon, India, Greece, Egypt, Rome). [The early Catholic theologian] St. Jerome testifies unequivocally, ‘All the ancient nations believed in the Trinity’ ” (p. 382)”.
The trinity of Jesus (saws) was not the first trinity among the pagan religions but it was the first to be forced onto the monotheistic religion of Abraham, that Judaism, Islam, Christianity and Jesus (saws) ascribed to.
Gods in the ancient world were passed around like business cards, “The ancient heathen deities of the pagan Irish, Criosan, Biosena, and Seeva, or Sheeva, are doubtless the Creeshna [Krishna], Veeshnu [Vishnu], [or the all-inclusive] Brahma, and Seeva [Shiva], of the Hindoos” (Thomas Maurice, The History of Hindostan, Vol. 2, 1798, p. 171), the entire affair had no integrity.
The Messenger of Allah (saws) said, “Allah the Almighty said, ‘Pride is My cloak and greatness is My robe, and he who competes with Me in respect of either of them, I shall cast into Hell Fire.’” (Sunan Abu Dawud), Christians rule the world through elitism today and that is both pride and arrogance, the bible has almost the same saying as this near word for word.
We know Angels are created from light (photons) and Jinn (demons) from fire (Electrons), this is common in all religions but Christianity banned science for a thousand years hence their tafsir is missing this basic aspect to it, when science is absent from a people Law becomes science and everything is argued based on that to horrific ends.
Europe had the dark ages, Islam had ibn Taymiyah, a lawyer whose arguments effectively declared all tafsir based on science kufr, science was seen as almost magic back then and today the extremists of the world are following his words.
Imam Ibn Arabi and Imam Ghazali where scholars who suffered at the hands of lawyers who had no idea science existed.
Light is the photon sub atomic particle and it is one of the smallest particles in existence, while fire is primarily made up of Atoms; “Fire is the result of a chemical reaction called combustion. At a certain point in the combustion reaction, called the ignition point, flames are produced. Flames consist primarily of carbon dioxide (Molecules), water vapor (Molecules), oxygen (Atoms) and nitrogen (All are atoms or molecules and not sub atomic).”
This is what most people think Jinn are made of but the prophet made a distinction, He (saws) said a fire which has no smoke and that is electricity and electricity is made of electrons. The distinction between photons and electrons is important because we can now separate Satan from Angels, their real nature is not even close and neither is the Christians theology regarding this.
So, what does it mean Satan was cast out of Heaven with His Angels, to understand that we have to understand that Angels do not sin because they are physiologically incapable of it, they do make mistakes in judgment and the most famous Angels who have made mistakes we know about them from two stories.
The first is the story of the angels sent to earth to live as humans because they could not understand why Humans kept sinning, the fact this occurred is important to understanding why Angels can make mistakes but they cannot sin, from their manner of existence Angels could understand the nature of sin but they wanted to know why humans could not stop falling into it.
The answer was entirely physiological because to understand why the Angels had to become human and live in the same environment as mankind, earth otherwise they could never understand.
This tells us it is impossible for Angels to fall into sin unless they are humans living on earth.
Angels are all around us now on earth and even at the time when this was occurring but that still is not enough for them to know and understand why mankind sinned, they had to take the physical form of a human to first know.
The second story is of the Angels of Babylon Harut and Marut who taught mankind the occult;
“Sulaiman did not disbelieve, but the Shayatin (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Harut and Marut but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, “We are only a trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us).” (Tafsir Ibn Kathir)
These two Angels were punished for this afterwards even though it was not sin it was a mistake of naivety and altruism which we can see from their statement in the Quran. If you think about how grave this mistake was the world today is the way it is because they taught this knowledge to man and Jinn.
Angels are in charge of the universe their knowledge is not all encompassing it is limited and so their mistakes can have enormous consequences on the universe therefor Allah must derive haq (Justice) for the wronged parties from those who made it, that is why Angels can be punished for things that are not sins or crimes, manslaughter the accidental death of a person is an easy comparison to this.
It is like an engineer making a mistake in the design of something and his choice killed someone as a result, this is not murder but a mistake in judgment.
Angels live under the same balance that exists in the universe for us and must deal with it every day, it is their job to balance the universe.
Abu Musa reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) was standing amongst us and he told us five things. He said: Verily Allah the Exalted and Mighty does not sleep, and it does not befit Him to sleep. He lowers the scale and lifts it (Balance in the universe, that decides fate in every moment and as the Balance changes the Mala’ikah do its work). The deeds in the night are taken up to Him before the deeds of the day (by the Angels who deal with every act we perform. There is order and precedence in how the universe works). and the deeds of the day before the deeds of the night. His veil is light (subatomic particles, all of this occurs in subatomic space). In the hadith narrated by Abu Bakr (instead of the word “light”) it is fire (Allah’s veil is fire which is more accurately energy or particles). If he withdraws it (the way these particles have formed the universe and everything in it, if He unravels the universe, if He unravels the subatomic fields, the layers of particles, which are veils between us and Him), the splendour of His countenance would consume His creation so far as His sight reaches.” (Muslim)
Similar to these stories is the story of Gabriel (as), Jibril after seeing man disbelieve in Allah for so long decided to take a human disciple and teach him, He took great care in educating the youth about everything including Allah, but in the end the young man ended up dying a Kafir, a mistake the Angel swore never to repeat again, at one-point Angels had trouble understanding human nature and needed to learn about it, these are those stories and experiences.
To understand Angels properly and what “Ibliss and His Angels” means, since it is a statement by Angels describing other Angels, and whose context is entirely separate from the Book of Enoch, you have to understand that Allah has assigned angels to guide every living creature he created, big and small, good and evil and everything in between;
“Each person has angels who take turns in guarding him by night and day, who protect him from evil and from accidents, just as other angels take turns in recording his deeds, good and bad, by night and by day. Two angels, on the right and the left, record his deeds. The one on the right writes down good deeds and the one on his left writes down evil deeds (a book of records to be referenced later on). Two other angels guard him and protect him, one from behind, and one from in front. So there are four angels by day and four others by night.” (Ibn Kathir)
The Prophet Muhammad (saws) said, “Angels come to you in succession by night and day and all of them get together at the time of the Fajr (early morning) and Asr (afternoon) prayers. Those who have passed the night with you (or stayed with you) ascend (to the Heaven) and God asks them, though He knows everything about you well, “In what state did you leave my slaves?” The angels reply: “When we left them they were praying and when we reached them, they were praying.” (Bukhari Muslim)
These are only some of the angels with you mentioned in ahadith, there are other Angels responsible for the path you take in life, what ever it is you choose they are responsible for bringing it about, all creatures learn from their own experiences and so because of this Angels will take the path you take in life supporting you with their light so they know it like you, this is what gives you freedom and strength in life, but some people are evil therefore Angels are forced to walk this path with you.
Angels by nature must take the path they are tasked with in order to learn all its knowledge and act on it, this is the only way to gain raw knowledge in the universe and they are the first to learn about knew things that come into existence from good, evil and what is in between.
When Allah says He cast Iblis out along with His Angels, that doesn’t mean His followers, it means His guardians who took His path with Him and enabled Him, opened the way for Him, this was their mistake like the occult was the mistake of the Angels of Babylon Harut wa Marut.
This mistake is not a sin but one of better or worse judgment, you should understand Angels are incapable of sinning, not by choice but by physiology. To be brief, the Angels hand is one of light they make choices about things at the origin of their inception in the universe, that is their responsibility and most of their work, sins don’t exist here they exist closer to us in the physical world.
Sins are types of acts that damage the universe while Angels exist at the same level the forces of the universe exist, the photon for example is the particle responsible for the electromagnetic force, this is a deeper subatomic sphere than our world and just as those forces are removed from the end product of their creation so are Angels.
If we want to understand how Allah can cast Angels out from heaven the answer is simple, that type of Angels does not belong there and the Angels of Iblis more than likely were raised up to Jannah along with Him and came out of it with Him.
Not every Angel knows Allah to the same degree they are arranged in ranks from the Arsh, the end of the universe to earth the physical part of the universe.
Ghayb the part of the universe they exist in is layered and each layer is hidden from the other behind a veil, if an Angel does not have access to all parts of ghayb then his perception of the “world” will be limited to what he can see, so the Angels of the Arsh know Allah the best and the Angels furthest away from the Arsh know Allah the least and these are the Angels on earth that were raised up to Jannah with iblis.
Consider this Hadith: Ibn Abbas (ra) said: “Two thousand years before (mankind) was created, there were Jinn on (Earth), and they caused corruption on it and shed blood (they caused fitnah during the age of dinosaurs, this is the blood they shed, with these creatures, other Ahadith indirectly say Allah punished the dinosaurs by killing them and turning the rest to lizards, He shrank/evolved them). Then Allah sent against them a troop of Angels who beat them and cast them away to islands in the seas. So, when Allah said: ‘I am placing (mankind) generations after generations on Earth,’ They (the Angels) said, ‘Will You place therein one who will cause corruption and shed blood’ (Al Baqarah, 2:30, referring to what they saw the jinn do before them on earth), That is: Just as those Jinn did?? Then Allah said: ‘I know that which you do not know.’” (Al-Hakim).
After this event occurred Allah raised Iblis to Jannah along with his earthly Angels responsible for him in life. When He became arrogant they were also responsible for enabling this mistake, responsible for experiencing defiance to Allah, everything an Angel experiences they become Imams in it hence they could not stay elevated to be examples and a spiritual force for Allah’s creation.
You can say to an Angel you should have known better but you can’t say you have sinned, the choice to sin doesn’t occur in their sphere of existence, it is the reason why they could not understand why man kept on sinning on earth, they don’t understand its nature because they can’t experience it.
Satanists and Christians want to claim Angels fell from their nature, photons (light) particles are not electrons or even Atoms, they should learn the basics of science before accusing them of something they are incapable of. If you want to understand how removed from sin Angels are research how small the photon particle is in the depths of subatomic space compared to an Atom on earth, you can fit much of the solar system inside that distance.
The Angels in following your path in life will adopt every aspect of it required to bring about the acts you choose to commit, that is their Ihsan that they are committed to sincerely, and that is their strength, they can live with you from their perspective, they are honouring Allah’s words and intention of diversity for creation in this verse:
“O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.” (49:13)
Allah created diversity then supported it with His Angels, so you will find Angels walking very different paths in this world.
It is men and Jinn who choose to do evil and these Angels must walk this path with them until Allah’s final decree comes upon them, they don’t commit your sins, they don’t override your free will, they allow the “physics” of what makes them possible exist.
Here is where you will find the most severe mistakes that Angels can make because to know the person they are supporting they adopt the mindset properly. Creation is here to find out all the knowledge it can discover about matters, good, evil and grey.
Hence you have Angels that have an Arab mindset, a Jewish mindset, a Christian mindset, an American mindset, a British mindset, a Criminal mindset, a happy mindset, a depressed mindset, it depends who they are with, this is something I have seen from the Angels and they fight for your right to exist the way you are vehemently, but it is not an indication of right or wrong.
The companions of the prophet (saws) knew all of this, when they went to war they spoke to the Mala’ikah of their enemies who would then help them defeat their people in War, this is how the companions took Persia and Rome the worlds largest superpowers in a very short period of time and no one could fathom how, the companions could see and speak to all the Mala’ikah, it is something Insha Allah the Ummah and its Awliayh will do again leading up to the time of Imam Mahdi (as), this is the way of war in Islam.
For Jinn and man this is dangerous ground because they find the power to commit their evil from Angels, the test of evil is impartial with Angels over it who are as impartial as the Angels of Babylon who taught the occult as a test, they all say essentially the same thing “We are a trial, so do not disbelieve.” (2:102)
Evil would not exist otherwise and Allah created it to see who would fall into it and for Angels to learn about Allah’s knowledge of it from its people.
Where Angels make mistakes is when some of them begin to believe in the path you take from their perspective, its right to exist in the grand scheme of things, so they enable you to do more and become blind/myopic/tunnel visioned to the rest of the world around them, even other Angels who advise them, this I have also seen.
This is because Angels follow the natural forces of the universe closely and help develop every kind of permutation on events that can exist, it is one reason why the span of time is so long, billions of years and it why Allah said in a Hadith Qudsi “I am Time”, meaning my nature is only known by those who know the full span of time that it is revealed over, the Angels.
We have seen these mistakes in the Quran from the Angels Harut and Marut, who some may have thought their acts crazy, why would you teach man such an evil just because you declared you are a test, they are following higher principles that make the universe exist because that is the life of Angels.
In the end Allah saw the matter our way and declared they went too far in following this higher path, they created to much harm so He punished them for wrong judgment in matters He gave them permission to act in on His behalf.
Becoming short sighted, caught up in the details and blind to the larger picture, is the short coming of all spiritual creatures because the spiritual world follows the physical one, hence Allah’s spiritual creatures follow the effects of what the physical world is doing to the spiritual one:
“There are no special doors for calamity and happiness (in men’s lot); they come as men themselves call them. Their recompenses follow good and evil as the shadow follows the substance (as the spiritual follows the physical).” (The Tao)
The lower Angels that this primarily occurs to are almost singular in their focus while mankind acquires a variety of qualities from Allah and the higher Angels, gaining wisdom over multiple subjects in life, eventually the lower Angels are surpassed as people come into proper maturity when they complete the sunnah of their life at the age of 40.
Because of this the lower Angels of earth end up living the reality of people on earth and become distanced from the reality of Allah, when that covers the world that is when the word of a Muhsin becomes as if nothing because the lower Mala’ikah are not echoing his reality and spreading Allah’s Haq, at this point it becomes more difficult for the Higher Mala’ikah who are more distant from this world to keep up as Allah would, as a result of this we see the oppression around us every day.
A sign of this was that in ages past miracles where easier to perform because the mala’ikah who performed them where all connected together at every level so every step of Allah’s hand in creation (His knowledge of everything from every perspective, in creation) was addressed and could be used to benefit man.
The reality of this is seen is surah al Rahman (55) where Allah combines in this surah the ecosystem of the stars and earth and warns about ruining the balance on earth because it will affect the heavens, the domain of the higher Angels.
Allah has many different groups of Angels, some in charge of Mercy some in charge of punishment, some in charge of knowledge, some in charge of beauty, as you can see their focus in life is singular and so is their perspective as a result of that, this is why spiritual creatures can easily loose themselves in their focus on something, Jinn being the worst of these creatures becoming entirely deluded having an “insane” train of thought.
Only the higher Angels have breadth in the qualities they embody, the leader of the Angels Michael (as) for instance is in charge of earth and everything that goes on here which is the opposite of singular focus.
It is only mankind that has Allah’s full spectrum of qualities which is why He said He created man in His image and why any mature human who sees Jinn sees them as small (or singular) minded.
Because Angels effectively live in Jannah compared to man they learn about consequences from watching them occur in the universe, they are also as old as the universe but Allah also creates new Angels every day, for example when Ayatul Kursi (2:255) is recited Allah (swt) creates an Angel on account of it to protect you from shaytan until the morning.
The older Angels don’t make the mistakes as the Angels on earth because they are always close to Allah’s Haq (reality), the wisdom in the universe, the existence of it comes from the prior experiences of the Angels, they share it with us as guidance and these are the mistakes they make in learning it from which we come to benefit.
“both 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 1:6 refer to angels who have sinned against God and await punishment on Judgement Day. The Bible records several different times when angels fell to earth. Some have already fallen. Genisis 6:2 Revelation 12:4 and others fall in the future, Revelation 6:13 Early Christians also integrated non-biblical details from the Enochian writings, which circulated both in oral and written transmission. Irenaeus referred to fallen angels as apostates, who will be punished by an everlasting fire. Tertullian and Origen referred to fallen angels also as teachers of Astrology.”
Much of these are mistakes in Tafsir or translations because they could not understand context, we have seen already how Allah punished the Angels Harut and Marut for the severity of their mistakes, but no where was it ever called a sin, Allah placed the domain of the occult under them and they made the mistake of teaching it to others, even if Allah forbade them from this beforehand it still would not have been a sin because a sin is an evil that is created by actions we take and sin cannot be created from the hands of Mala’ikah, it is physiologically impossible.
People don’t understand this about sins, they think it is just something abstract, no it is an actual harm created from the forces of the uhvierse.
Some Angels because of the severity of their mistake will be sent to Jahanam but that also is not what you imagine, in fact Mala’ikah have been sent to Jahanam as a result of their mistakes from the beginning of time (something I was taught by the Mala’ikah).
We know from the book of Enoch (Idriss) which the kufar rely on for their ideas of fallen Angels that black holes are Hell, the Angels showed this to Idriss (as) who witnessed them swallowing stars, they explained that these stars are being punished for not following the path of Allah at the beginning of time, literally for the star not being on the right celestial path the underlaying subtext is that this was part of its greater fate which was a consequence to its nature (the nature it “earned”).
The Mala’ikah of each of these stars are also swallowed into Jahanam and become part of the Angels of Hell, there they learn about the mistakes in judgment they made by being asked to punish the things they once supported in life, the realities they lived.
This also occurs to the Angels of this world when they can’t find a way back from the path they took with a taghut (oppressor), Allah makes them one of the Angels of Jahanam and there they learn what they could not in this world, this is also something I have witnessed directly, the Mala’ikah of Jahanam coming to earth to take the Mala’ikah of a Taghut (a Jinn in this case) to Jahanam to continue His life there.
We have to stop looking at the Mala’ikah like magical creatures who snap their figures and things happen from thin air, they are responsible for creating things in the universe and everything you receive comes from their work. If you are blessed enough to enter Jannah, understand everything in it comes to you because one of Allah’s Angels did the work to create it, there are no shortcuts to how you receive things.
Angels will work for hundreds of years on something not just to create it but to also give it its honour and worth with haq so you can enjoy this exalted thing for a few moments. The things they create require that their honour and worth in the universe be real at every level in relation to everything else, that is how absolute Haq (reality/truth) is maintained otherwise Jannah would be full of delusion, so Understand.
Just like the Angels of this lower world can be “cast” into Jahanam to learn Allah can “cast” them out of Jannah to earth so they can likewise learn. Angels exist in this universe like us, created beings subject to the laws of the universe, they learn from life, they are created with some knowledge but it is not encompassing in any manner considering how much knowledge exists.
The idea of Angels following the realities of man to the extremes of evil to support it is in Ahadith. While this following example is singular look at it in the wider perspective of everything Angels do in the universe and you will find what we are saying;
Regarding the Dajjal (Allah’s curse be upon him) who will commit the worst evils on earth, the prophet (saws) said; “Two angels resembling two Prophets, one on either side will accompany him. This will be to test mankind. Hence the Dajjal will ask, “Am I not your lord? Do I not give life and death?…” (Narrated by Safeena-Musnad Ahrnad)
This is what they will help him with and it is a clear example of Mala’ikah being put in a role of causing deliberate fitnah on earth by Allah, it is a test from Him to weed out the occultists hiding themselves among mankind, it has a higher wisdom behind it just like the other Mala’ikah doing similar work.
“[He] who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed – and He is the Exalted in Might, the Forgiving.” (67:2)
Angels never touch Haram they only open the way for people to choose to walk into something, this is what the Mala’ikah of Babylon Harut and Marut did when they taught man the occult;
“And they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, “We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic].” (2:102)
Other Mala’ikah around the world will choose to take up similar roles on earth for higher reasons, those who see them like Jinn will find it hard to understand why because of their relative immaturity.
Angels follow the paths of the universe, “By the heaven full of paths” (51:7), they do not fall from “grace”, blessing, rank, or anything else, when the Angels Harut and Marut taught man the occult ahadith state Allah decided the matter against them and punished them for it, despite in part being responsible for what the world is seeing today and more than likely the existence of the fitnah of the Dajjal, they are still the same Angels.
What is in mens hearts will fuel the forces of hell and the Angels who know best what is a persons heart are the Angels that accompanied each person or Jinn in life, these are the Angels of this verse (Which leaps up over the hearts), Allah would not have made the connection if there where no Angels connecting the two, the Angels that know your heart and the Angels that know Jahanam.
Here is some higher wisdom, Allah said in a hadith Qudsi “I am Time”, meaning I am known over the passage of time, this tells us that from the beginning of the universe to its end Allah will create every “kind” of situation, one such situation is testing if people in the world will decide to rule the world through the occult, this age will end with the coming of the one who is the master of sihr, the Dajjal, a being who lost control of his self soon after birth to ghayb and consequently gained mastery over sihr at the expense of his will because of which Allah will end his existence on the day of judgment in the same way animals will be killed, because they have no intelligence or will to the same level as us they are neither deserving of Jannah or Jahanam.
When the Jews explained the matter of the Angels saying “these angels are regarded as being still subordinative to God’s plan and act as evil inclinations” they where right regarding this, they do this to test you in a real way, even the prophet (saws) was tested by the Angels to see if he would choose the wrong path.
Abu Hurairah said: “On the night Allah’s apostle was taken on the journey (Al-Isra Wal-Miraaj), two cups, one containing wine and the other milk, were presented to him at Jerusalem. He looked at it and took the cup of milk. Gabriel said “Praise be to Allah who guided you to Al-Fitrah (the right instinct) if you had taken the cup of wine, your nation would have gone astray.” (Bukhari)
And the story of Dawwud (as) and the two Angels one playing the role of an oppressor to test him (as):
“And have you heard the account of the litigants – how they climbed over the wall of the citadel and came in to Da’wud, frightening him, and they said, ‘Do not be afraid – we are two litigants, one of whom has wronged the other, so judge between us with truth, and do not be unjust, and guide us to the right way:
“‘Surely this brother of mine had ninety-nine ewes, and I had one ewe, and he said, “Let me look after her,” – and his proposal got the better of me.’
“He (Da’wud) said, ‘He has indeed wronged you by asking for your ewe in addition to his ewes, and surely many of those who bargain together certainly wrong each other, except for those who believe and do good – and how few they are!’
“And Da’wud thought that We had surely been testing him, so he asked his Lord for forgiveness and fell down, bowing – and he repented.
“And so We forgave him that – and surely he certainly has a near place in our presence and a good destiny.
“(And Allah said), ‘O Da’wud, surely We have chosen you as a khalif in the earth, so judge between people in with truth, and do not follow any desire that may lead you away from the way of Allah – surely those who go astray from the way of Allah will have an intense punishment because they forgot about the Day of Reckoning.'”
Al-Qur’an 38:17-26
None of this is unfamiliar to the bible except translators are confused about what it all means;
“For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned (made a mistake), but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of nether gloom to be kept until the judgment.” (RSV 2 Peter 2:4)
“And the angels that did not keep their own position but left their proper dwelling (followed the paths until their end not turning back) have been kept by him in eternal chains (a metaphorical reference to the crushing force of Jahanam, a black hole, meaning they can’t leave it once they enter) in the nether gloom until the judgment of the great day.” (RSV Yehuda 1:6, or Jude 1:6)
Jahanam knows the hearts of the creatures Allah created in order to punish them, so when you open your heart to darkness you will find a path to hell from the paths of the universe (51:7), likewise when the Mala’ikah follow your path to hell some can end up going there to complete their journey in life.
The work of the Mala’ikah is not magic it is balancing forces like a chemistry equation, something goes in then it is converted into something else but it never stops existing.
The Angels carry man throughout His life but man can have deluded beliefs which they must support to grant him his freedom, when that person dies the equation that sums up his life is left with them to deal with in their self and so they can’t stop themselves from acting according to the persons sunnah, if the angels can’t turn back Allah will send the them to Jahanam to balance the equations, and learn the consequences of peoples actions, to show them what the end of the path looks like so they can witness it and change with haq.
Very literally for Mala’ikah Jahanam is a place that rehabilitates them from the extremes in the lives of man.
“IS THEN -HE who was dead [in spirit] and whom We thereupon gave (his soul) life (through morality), and for whom We set up a (guiding) light (in his heart) whereby he might see his way among men – [is then he] like one [who is lost] in darkness deep, out of which he cannot emerge?” (Al-Anam: 122)
“Is he whose bosom Allah hath expanded to Al-Islam, so that he followeth a light from his Lord, (as he who disbelieveth in what he is seeing)? Then woe unto those whose hearts are hardened (shut) against remembrance of Allah (the possibility of that light helping them). Such are in plain error.” (39:22)
“Nay they will be thrown into Al Hutamah (the Crushing Fire). And what will make you know what Al Hutamah is? The fire of Allah kindled by men and stones which will rise over the [guilty] hearts. Surely it will vault over them in pillars widely extended (like the jets of a black hole).” (Humazah: 4-9)
Shaykh Rami Al Rifai.